Turkish Hidith Review
Posted by HamzaApr 3

I am fed up to the back teeth of this rust, this stain of modernism upon the religion of Allah
, the extreme which is currently being played out in Turkey - to the joy of the West. 
The fellow to the right is Ali Bardakoglu, this stooge of the munafiqeen government of Turkey, is the guy who is heading the movement of a modern approach to the interpretation of the sacred ahadith of our beloved Prophet Muhammad
.
The BBC ran a story that stated it was a “a revolutionary reinterpretation of Islam - and a controversial and radical modernisation of the religion“ to which the Turkish clerics have now since denied.
Bardakoglu said “A team of 80 are scanning all existent hadith. For example, words humiliating women are attributed to the prophets. We are combing through such interpretations. We will publish six volumes. However, what we are doing is not reform on Islam… we are not reforming Islam; we are reforming ourselves, our own way of religiosity.”
These are the words of a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a Trojan virus before you open an email and a man who has completely lost his mind.
I think it is not an exaggeration to say that the Turks have fallen so far from grace that it is only comparable to a previously unheard of phenomena; the metamorphosis of a butterfly back into the state of a slug.
From the rulers of the whole Islamic Ummah to the dirt and mud on the ground where they wallow and kiss and grovel at the feet of their masters, the Europeans. In their love and desire to be like and to appease their Europeans masters they cut off their beards, they threw off their hijabs, they changed their script from Arabic to Latin, they removed the khalifate, they stopped jihad, they removed the sunnah from the lives of people, they stopped the youth from going Hajj and now they wish reinterpret established shariya laws and principles by adding modern understanding to the hadith. What a fall, what a collapse, what a disaster?!
Of course, this is all politically motivated, there are some fantastic Muslims in Turkey and fantastic scholars - but their voices are never heard and their faces are never seen. Instead we get clean shaven, ignorant fasiqoon (open sinners) as representatives of the religion of Allah
in Turkey.
Greater men than they have done the work for us, they have establish rulings, they have commentated on all of the ahadith, they have classified them in terms of authenticity, preserved them and they have preserved the message of our beloved teacher, Prophet Muhammad
.
In 2008 we do not need people, who can’t even obey the simplest of Islamic injunctions upon them, to tell us about our Deen, to tell us that our understanding is wrong and to attribute lies to the Holy Messenger of Allah
.
They want and have desired to get into the European family so much and for so long that they have stripped away almost all of Islam from the people, and for what? The Europeans will still call them rag-heads and they will never be accepted by them.















3 comments
Comment by Chris Allinson
on April 3, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Touched a nerve I guess? From the blog attached to: http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/02/29/turkey-not-reforming-islam-but-itself-with-hadith-review/
Irving speaks of the false hadiths attributable to Abu Huraya and his chastisement by the Prophet? (True or false?) Search for “truth” requires that devout Muslims distance themselves from the misogyny of Abu Huraya? The Prophet described as ‘kind, generous, loving toward all women’, while unspecific on Moslem women’s rights is certainly not seen as advocating the blatant degradation/misogyny ‘listed’ in the article? Or is the status quo preferable where Islam simply seen by the West as the religion that degrades its women by hadith decree?
“I think it is a good idea to purge the false hadiths, many of which were written by Abu Huraya, whom the Prophet reportedly chastised for making up hadiths. Huraya was a woman hater, and it shows, while the Prophet was kind, generous, loving, toward all women.
- Posted by Irving “
Comment by Hamza
on April 3, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Look, let me get something across to you now. You have indeed touched a nerve, and with your comment an even bigger nerve because you are attacking (on the authority of the enemies of Islam) one of the most senior of companions of Prophet Muhammad
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Abu Haraira (May Allah
be please with him) is a giant of Islam, a giant of humanity, a mountain of knowledge and insight, intellect and piety. All of these accusations against this man are wrong, false, lies, slander and are only created to discredit Islam.
Non Muslims have been trying to discredit Islam since day one and it will never change. They have tried so many different things and this is actually not knew. However, it is really annoying.
Let me explain their thought pattern in a conversation they may ,have with themselves and other like minded people:
Q. How can we discredit Islam?
chastised him for making up hadith
A. By attacking the Hadith
Q. Who narrated the most hadith
A. Abu Haraira
Q. So if we discredit him then could that wipe out 1000’s and 1000’s of narrations?
A. Yes it could
Q. So shall we begin?
A. Let’s
Q. Shall we make up hadith and attribute it to Abu Haraira?
A. Good thinking, I’m on it
Q. Shall we make out that Prophet Muhammad
A. Yes, yes, that’ll really get them going
Q. Shall we make up ahadith that portrays their Prophet in a bad light
A. Perfect
do not believe the lies.
One more thing. You have the nerve to say that Islam degrades women? The truth is that Islam honours women.
Let us look at how the West treat their women
they strip them naked and put them on bill boards
they strip them naked and put them in papers
they strip them naked and put them in magazines
they strip them naked to promote products
they strip them naked for the porn industry
they strip them naked for the music industry
they strip them naked for the motor industry
they never received rights until 1950’s
they never inherited until the mid 1900’s
They don’t get equal pay, even now
it is a complete myth that in the west they are free. They are not they are subjugated to the whims and desires of men. period.
Islam honours our women - some men don’t, but Islam does.
Comment by Chris Allinson
on April 3, 2008 at 3:13 pm
So the Prophet did not castigate Abu Huraya for misogyny? Turkey not content to fall in line with your narrow view: all is revealed, all life’s questions answered in the Koran. Your irrelevance is showing? Don’t take offence, just post more quotes - after all, the ‘answers’ are embodied in the Koran.
Where in the Koran or hadith will one find:
“Women are imperfect in intellect and religion.”
“The best of women are those who are like sheep.”
“If a woman doesn’t satisfy her husband’s desires, she should choose herself a place in hell.”
“If a husband’s body is covered with pus and his wife licks it clean, she still wouldn’t have paid her dues.”
“Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a woman passes in front of you.”…” ??
And Western women have rights and free will, and are usually well compensated for their services to advertising and porn industry - that you decry with moral superiority? Women in country after country went through suffrage, the vote granted almost a century ago, once secularism overcame the oppression of the various religious-zealot sects. The underground sex slave industry in Islamic Malaysia, Africa and the former Soviet bloc (UK incidents also) the other side of the coin where mostly male miscreants traffic in women and children - appalling, indictable when discovered, incredibly sad for the victims and their families.
So, I have you addressing the status of women in Islam, albeit by redirection - a Bush style ploy that does not really hold water here? Tell me Islam does not sanction female mutilation? Tell me women are equal in your own Mosque/society? Stop side stepping, stand up and be counted! Why on earth did you think we went after the Muslim community with such ferocity in Ontario? It was about human rights, not religion! I don’t redirect and I don’t ‘go away’ when confronting physical & mental abuse (coercion) of women & children!